How about "Capitalization by Area"? Or "Capitalization within Elements"? It's deliberately not "Capitalization" as a whole, just the "areas" section from the "General rules" part of AACR2 Appendix A in order to provide an equivalent to the prescribed punctuation instructions at the start of each chapter.

Argh. I forgot that the threaded comments display newer sub-comments first when they're at the same level. Imagine that the above comes after Randy's reply.

Me too.

Is it okay simply to delete it? It's what AACR2 has, but there's no further explanation anywhere that I can find.

Agree. I think it stayed in by accident when the rest of a much larger passage from AACR2 was cut down.

I don't like it either. Is this a case where we can deviate from AACR2 because AACR2 is weird, rather than for rare materials reasons?

Looks like the original AACR2 wording was changed by accident. It should be "If the title proper of a resource that is supplementary to, or section of, another resource consists of two or more parts that are not grammatically linked, capitalize the start of the title of the second and subsequent parts."

The first two examples look exactly like what AACR2 has. Does the last example need to be dropped? (I have to admit that I don't understand serials rules, so I just closed my eyes on that one).

Oops, was omitted by mistake from the AACR2 first sentence. Should be "If an edition statement (or a statement relating to a named revision of an edition) begins with a word or an abbreviation of a word, capitalize it."

Let's omit them, but remind people about the weirdness by using the full AACR2 wording for C7. Statement of responsibility: "In the statement of responsibility element, capitalize as instructed in the rules for the language involved all personal and corporate names; titles of nobility; terms of address, honour, and distinction; and initials of societies, etc., accompanying personal names. In general, do not capitalize other words."

Agree. AACR2 has the statement (inconsistently) repeated throughout, but doesn't have the general statement that we have in C1.

Three things I noticed (using the 20130729 version):
C4.1: Move "specific" outside the parentheses.
C5.1. Per ISBD, should the last example have brackets around each element to read: [S.l.] : [s.n.]
C6: If the appendix is going to fit all modules, delete the reference to 5B1.3 at the end of the paragraph? It works for books and probably the other modules, but DCRM(MSS) doesn't have the rule.

Draft 2: C2.2: Will this always be true? I'd do "Shakespeare's The tempest" not "Shakespeare's the tempest"

Draft 2: C6: Need "in" before "uppercase"? Also, in 2nd example, should "one sheet" be "1 sheet"?

Draft 2: I see the revised text has "including quoted notes". I should have elaborated more in my initial comment. I wasn't talking about capitalization at the beginning of quoted notes but within quoted notes. For example, if your piece has at head of title: "Price Six Shillings & Ninepence", do you use the capitalization that is in the piece (because, you know, you're "quoting" it) or do you normalize the capitalization like you do in regular transcription? I can remember being a little unsure what to do and wishing that were addressed in the rules.

It's not that B is more important, it's just that the Editorial Guidelines convention is to have the other modules record where they are differing significantly from B. So, it wasn't clear to me what the new approach would be (and what exactly people will be voting to approve). Are we thinking this "combination" document will be itself posted to the EG wiki and the modules will indicate their deviations (if any) from IT? Is the intention that each module will edit the combo doc to reflect only their own format (e.g. only maps examples in DCRM(C) and no mention of music, graphics, etc.) or that each module will have a combo doc and only things like the names of areas will be edited to reflect their usage? We've just not done it this way before, so I'm confused as to what exactly we're doing.

C4.6, third example: I don't understand the third example ; vollstandiger Klavierauszug vom Componisten Did something drop out, or is it just my ignorance of music cataloging?

Having come in a little late, I'm having some difficulty matching various replies with the questions being asked. Could you all possibly nest your replies more or at least, say what rule/question you are referring to? It gets confusing, at least for me... (I can be a little dumb sometimes)

I'm wondering if there is an answer to Manon's question: "Are we thinking this "combination" document will be itself posted to the EG wiki and the modules will indicate their deviations (if any) from IT? Is the intention that each module will edit the combo doc to reflect only their own format (e.g. only maps examples in DCRM(C) and no mention of music, graphics, etc.) or that each module will have a combo doc and only things like the names of areas will be edited to reflect their usage? We've just not done it this way before, so I'm confused as to what exactly we're doing."

I also am wondering about this. There are a couple music-specific things that probably should be covered (and clearly I'd like a few more music examples), but am not sure whether I should be doing that here or in my own document.

I think "H. Langlois fils et cie" probably ought to be "H. Langlois Fils et Cie" per AACR2 -- there's no "contrary rule" in the French section saying not to capitalize "Fils" or "Cie" (and the list of AACR2 abbreviations gives "Cie" with a capital as the French equivalent to "Co."

For C4. Material (or type of publication) specific details, I'd suggest adding a square bracketed [Ed. note: omit this rule for modules that do not make use of Area 3] and numbering each of the remaining headings "4.2" -- the rule will be 4.2 for those manuals that do use it, and there's no need to mention the area at all for other manuals now that the introduction has been changed from "0" to "1" (i.e., the rules no longer match area numbers, so other modules should use "C4" for Publication, distribution, etc. area).

The last rule should just be "Capitalize the first word of statements giving the terms on which the resource is available." That is, delete "if the statement appears without a price" because it only applies in AACR2, where you either give just the price "in numerals with standard symbols...if the item is for sale, or a brief statement of other terms if the item is not for sale." DCRM's "Price three pence" would be simply "3d." in AACR2.

The Series area examples in need ISBD punctuation added. Following DCRM, it could either be an entire series statement, e.g., DCRM(B) 6G1.1: (Modern standard drama / edited by Epes Sargent ... ; no. XXXII), or everything before the number except the opening paren. could be given, e.g. 6G1.2: (... ; num. II) and (... ; volume six)

Thanks to Deborah having helped me with a transcription earlier today, I can add that it should probably be ": Chez la Veuve Duchesne, libraire, rue Saint-Jacques" with "Veuve" capitalized -- "Veuve" is a title of respectful address in this context (AACR2 A.39D2: Capitalize titles of address and titles of respectful address or reference); LCRI 22.2 says "If the word "widow" is used as a term of address, treat it as such" (albeit, this is in the context of a name heading, not a statement of responsibility).

Note that although A.39C1 says of French names "Capitalize prefixes consisting of an article or a contraction of an article and a preposition: La Fontaine; Du Cange" that's under "prefixes in names of persons" rather than prefixes to terms of address.

I've been working on creating Appendix C for Music, and have come across a couple things. C7.1 says "Capitalize the title proper, parallel titles, other title information..." Shouldn't that be: "Capitalize the first word of the title proper, parallel titles, other title information". I think the same issue came up before for the title proper.

Rule numbering: I find the rule numbering a little odd--Area 1 is under C2, Area 2 under C3, etc., since the introduction is C1. Is it possible to the intro C0, so that the numbers align with the ISBD areas?